205 for me

[kapuahi]

Finally, everyone together and whilst I'm sad there was no max, yay no Joe, can we do that with Lori too?


Love that they used volleyball. The only sport that I had any school prowess in doesn't get enough love.

Though fairly dodgy premise, doesn't HPD have a homicide squad?

So glad that Malia is back, Chin needs some loving.

I'm trying to like Lori, honest I am.

Cargument! YAY! Danny getting shot at, Steve eye rolling, good times, good times. But where is the seque to "Danny move in with me"

That's where Lori belongs, Chin's partner while Kono is doing other things, after that she can be fifth wheel. Seriously!

I love the detailing of Malia having Chin's ring on a chain, still. That's special.

That scene with Lori and Chin in room 104 was just...odd. and please don't tell me that pseudo interrogation was the not so subtle beginnings of attraction/interest in Steve because no. Just no.

BTW, that played like claustrophobia to me not impatience, just saying.

Chin's expressions? Priceless.

That motel gets a lot of action, isn't that the same one as in Palekaiko?

Forgive me for being so McGarrett focussed but that 'chat' with Chin about Kono? That to me was more Steve being upset about not knowing what danger his people were in than being indignant pissed at not being told.

Billy/Alec/Steve/Dan Baldwin remains skilled at the skeevy.

Love, Love, Love the car chase, but how Hawaii!Geek does it make me that I was bouncing knowing that I've driven that road.

Loribot 2000 (tm stellarmeadow) had to handcuff Kono because Steve knew he and Danny couldn't.

That whole scene with Kono/Chin/Steve in interrogation? Heartbreaking, from all of them. And of course Steve is going to go hard at her because that is how he is, he doesn't/can't do soft when things are all fucked up like that.

Steve/Sleazmore toe to toe, that is perfect, but the first time I see that pairing in slash I swear I will leave the internets to their own devices.
There must be a squillion cut scenes that explain all this because clearly we're not supposed to see the big pink elephant, but it's trumpeting happily.

Billy/Alec/Steve/Dan Baldwin and Randy = skeevy squared.

And Steve, honey, I love you but you're hardly one to talk about revenge. Just saying.

Kono trusts her back up. Awww. Also yay for Chin and his techiness.

I do love it when they have good weapons. I want Steve and Danny's big guns.

I have so missed Kono kicking ass and taking no prisoners.

Somebody need to tell Sleazmore to enunciate because I have no clue what he's saying – either that or he needs to learn to carry semaphore flags.

Also, hit him again for me Steve.

That last scene, the new iconic 'team' scene, just pisses me off. And not only because Danny didn't have thigh holsters. Also because this is how it should have finished.

So all in all, I think we're back on the tracks rather than running parallel.

Comments

[beruthiel1.livejournal.com]

Hi Tarnished!

I greatly admire you for giving Lauren/Lori a chance--I had too many spoilers, I couldn't do it. I agree with you that Lauren can't do this part--I've seen only a tiny bit of her other work, so I don't want to judge, but I probably could after some time on You Tube. I don't think it's just her fault though: these folks can't write female characters. Sure Kono is great, but what does she do? She follows Chin around and kicks ass every once in awhile. Is that really enough? If they want good female characters on this show, they have to hire writers who can write them.

Beruthiel1

[tarnishedangel2.livejournal.com]

Hi, Beruthiel

Long time no see. ; )

I've been wondering where you were. I haven't seen a comment from you in a while, and I was afraid that you had given up on H50. I know that you were not looking forward to the introduction of Lori.

Thanks!!! I tried to keep an open mind regarding Lori just as I have all the other female characters on H50, but Lori is the first one that I just don't like, and I can't make myself like her. This is going to sound harsh, but she is as about as interesting to me as a limp dishtowel, and Lauren German's acting (or lack thereof) is painful to watch at times. Yeah, I know it's a mean thing to say, but I can't lie or sugarcoat how I feel.

I think the problem is the H50 writers/producers see the female characters as interchangeable and disposable. Some of them were interesting women. I think there was a lot of room for development with both Catherine and Jenna, but instead they sent them packing and brought in Lori. Governor Jameson was interesting, but they made her evil and killed her off, and we never even got to know Laura Hills. I really wanted her character to get more air time because I like Kelly Hu as an actress. She would have been good as the governor's new spy instead of Lori if TPTB hadn't decided to kill her off. And, you know how much I liked Rachel. I think Jean Smart and Claire van der Boom are the best actresses that this show has had, and both were terribly underused. As for the new addition of Dr. Gabrielle Asano (Danny's new love interest introduced in ep 2.04), I'm keeping an open mind about her too. Like German, I had never heard of Autumn Reeser either, but I'll give her character a fair shot too.

I agree with you about Kono. I like Kono, but I don't love her character (and I want to), and I think the reason that I don't is because she is under developed. I see her basically as the team's go-to-girl when they need someone to go undercover, and then she kicks ass somewhere in the episode, but she doesn't really do anything else. I felt the greatest connection and interest toward her last season when she was defending Chin or visiting her family. Examples are ep 1.03 when she spoke with her and Chin's cousin Sid in defense of Chin, and in ep 1.20 when she was promising her Auntie that she would help patch things up between Chin and her Uncle.

Take care and stay in touch!!! : )

Tarnished

[beruthiel1.livejournal.com]

Hi Tarnished--

No, I haven't givien up--just lying low, hanging out with the choir (you know, those people you preach to... : - D ), waiting to see what the rest of the fandom thinks.

I honestly didn't give serious thought to the female characters until I saw Lori. Then I realized the show had four failed ones (Mary, Laura, Jenna, and Lori). Now I know Mary is coming back, but she was supposed to get a lot more screen time last year. Jenna was supposed to be the mythical fifth member, and they gave up on her. Laura was, I thought, supposed to be a thorn in McGarrett's side, and first they didn't use her, then they killed her off. And now Lori, who is a total mess--I mean, how can she be a love interest for McG, a female McG, and a spy for the governor all at the same time, all while acting like an eighth grader?

As you said, the writers/producers just don't value the women characters, so the others (Rachel, etc..) haven't fared much better--they don't get much to do and they don't have much backstory. I hope they at least do better with Kono--like showing her with her family more (without turning it into a soap opera).

Take care,

Beruthiel1

[tarnishedangel2.livejournal.com]

Hi, Beruthiel

ROTFL @ "(you know, those people you preach to". Yes, I do get preachy on occasion don't I? ; )

I agree the writers failed with Laura and Lori, and I think they were succeeding with Jenna until they just gave up on her. I've read that Lenkov said she didn't have any chemistry with the cast, and I don't buy it. I think there was a sweet sibling like chemistry with both Steve and Danny, and of course there is a part of me that ships Steve/Jenna. She brought out the same protective instincts in him that Mary did, but unlike Mary, she isn't his sister; so, I can give my mind free rein to ship them. I think TPTB dumped Jenna because she didn't appeal to the male demographic that the series is trying to attract. BLAH!!! IMO, Jenna was miles more interesting than Lori and Larisa was a better actress too. I think they were succeeding with Mary too, but since TPTB are bringing her back I'll reserve judgment before I call that a fail. When I bought the season 1 DVD box set I realized how much of her story ended up on the cutting room floor. There were several deleted scenes that gave us more insight into Mary and her relationship with Steve.

I don't see Lori as a female McGarrett. I pray they drop the love interest for Steve idea too. Just the thought of Steve and Lori together makes me gag. Again, I know that's harsh, but it's the truth. She does act like an "eighth grader" doesn't she?!! Her conversation with Chin in 2.05 and her teasing Danny about asking out Gabrielle in 2.04 both seem immature to me. Good observation!!! : )

I hope they expound on Kono's story and introduce us to more of her and Chin's extended family. And, there is a part of me that is hoping that Danny and Rachel find their way back to each other before the series ends. I think that I will always ship those two just like I will always ship Steve/Danny. It's early, but I think those two ships will remain my favorites throughout the series.

Take care!!! : )

Tarnished

[beruthiel1.livejournal.com]

Hi Tarnished,

Well, re: the preaching, I meant me. ; - ).

I liked Jenna a whole lot more than Lori--not really surprising. I'm sure a lot of people who hated her are saying that now. I haven't watched all the deleted scenes, but I've heard that a lot of Mary's scenes were cut--that's probably why Taryn Manning was so upset.

Even if not all of those women characters were ultimate failures, the writers should never have had to tinker with them that much. These people are supposed to be professionals, but apparently they are better at some things than others. They can only go UP from Lori. I hope. Imagine if they did even worse? Eek. Anyway, I really hope things improve soon.

Take care,
Beruthiel1